Yeah, give this a try:

www.grist.org/article/series/skeptics

A closed mind is a happy mind.

My mind isn't closed ...
just got done answering another tedious debate question about whether *Adam* of *Adam and Eve* existed over at the *"Polar Order"* forum and so I'm tired;

but why should I be interested in boring myself to death reading all the BS theories that are just as wrong as the global warming theorists?
Imho it's more of the evasive BS to try to get genuinely interested folks with the right slant uninterested So that the issue will just die and go away ...
*out of sight out of mind* I believe the tactic is.

However, I'll just adlib:
one of the last things I read about the CO2 as causative is that it's the dark kind (that is, soot (that is, carbon (that is, as in smoke))) that causes the warming effect;
but they've admitted as I've previously stated somewhere in these forums that the soot/carbon washes out of the atmosphere with every form of precipitation,
So it's just not the long term threat that they've implied, although I've really been wondering about all those wildfires in California when this issue was really top news.

Also, although they keep trying to flip-flop and blame everything on global warming, the causes and effects are just not as they originally stated they would be
and it all comes down to the conditions we are now experiencing like: heavy snows, tornadoes and extremes of temperatures (that is, 80s to 90s in the day with 40s and 60s at night) are cyclical (that is, as I've stated before in these forums, we've had these conditions before).

Way back I used the term in these forums of *mini ice age* which is being used in the link I provided and in that link the 70s are mentioned as an example.
A mini ice age occurs about every 20 to 30 years and is just a climate trend where there is much more snowfall for several years than in other years.

That's the causative of the mini ice age (that is, the snow) and that's the part that wasn't mentioned in the link I provided ...
it was mentioned that it was getting cooler, but it wasn't mentioned that it was because of more snowfall.

There's still heavy snow for example in the Colorado Rockies which hasn't melted yet as I'm sure there is also in the Canadian Rockies pushing cool air from the west and from the north respectively causing all those tornadoes when it mixes with the warm air from the south and east, but the term *"Tornado Alley"* has been coined since 1904 ... in other words, it's nothing new.

In actuality it's the water vapor in the air that's holding the heat, but of course we all know that moist air causes rain and snow when it meets cool enough air and again as I've stated before in these forums, it only takes 32 degrees F to cause snow which when on the ground tends to reflect sunlight and as it melts takes heat out of the air and ground in order to do so.

Eventually as I've stated before there will be less and less warm moist air coming north from the south simply because the snow will tend to cool everything off, but have no fear, because there will be less and less warm moist air coming north, the heavy snowfalls will begin to subside and the cycle will begin to go back into a warming trend as the snowline begins to retreat.

Unfortunately though, *Tornado Alley* will probably be quite active for many years to come ...
poor folks.

PS:
You forgot to add your grin.

rex

All of your concepts are treated at that site.

my train of thought atm is we (human race) have been and will be in for a rough ride (extreme weather) .I feel we should survive as long as we have not got the nuclear threat to deal with as well...Obviously my thought processes are based on recent events in Japan.
Every thing else is as TR says BS so i'm going back to my sour bread -waronline.net/forums/posts.asp?m=15813


Oh yes - i hear Germany have pledged to get rid of all their nuclear power plants.

Speaking of the "nuclear threat", I was up in the air about posting this because I still don't know whose behind the global warming propaganda and the condemnation of our US coal source of generating electric power;
but anyway, I'll take coal power any day over this calamity:

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43475479/ns/us_news-environment/

rex

Coal is no answer, it is just a huge source of pollution and raping the earth. Go solar, wind, geothermal, tidal! And bicycles.

Bet you're thinking *told you so*, but just read yesterday and it makes sense, that this heat's being caused by evaporating flood waters (i.e. water vapor) trapping the heat.

rex

No, I wasn't thinking that, as I have stated many times here, local, changing weather conditions are not the indicator of global warming (or cooling or anything), it is longer term trends that matter. Global temperatures have been and are climbing, on average and must be halted before we face truly huge problems. Won't be, though.

These political parties are going to get their due come next election when they find a third centrist party between them ...
it's disgusting how we pay these creeps to featherbed and filibuster while the nation teeters on economic calamity.

rex

Last Edited : Sunday, 31 July 2011 - 08:53

A few things i'd like to mention -

Last night in London our G.P.O tower (was once tallest building in London) was decorated to look like a light sabre (star wars) ..this was part of the promotion for the entire collection of star wars being available on blue-ray.

Can you remember the original battle between beta-max and vhs video cassettes ? .Did you have to have the specific video recorder to play them ?
Now the battle goes on between blueray and HD DVD

Did you know the cost of making sony playstation 3's is equal to the selling price ,in fact they actually make a loss .The main reason for the playstation3 was to smuggle blue ray players into peoples homes .

To make people buy their favourite movies yet again? For the third time is it?

Interesting fact for today -

Did you know Leanardo De Vinci wrote all is notes
in mirror writing ,probably because he was left handed and it aleviated the problems associated (e.g smudging and covering with hand) .
My kids are left handed and my eldest has difficulties so i'm going to try it out on them.

2 more people needed for campign-14648

so far
jeep, sirsiesta, Lexander, kitetsu, Vulgaria, Hambone, hitmewithit, pink panthar

If you want to know what talents the players of war-on-line have (including what Harley can do with her toes)
go here- waronline.net/forums/posts.asp?m=15849

If you wish to discuss the state of Americas' finance and the worlds banks
go here- waronline.net/forums/posts.asp?m=15850 courtesy of Lod

or maybe while you're having a well deserved tea break you can ponder over the plight of the human race now that our lives are dominated by technology. courtesy of sage.
go here- waronline.net/forums/posts.asp?m=15848

Last Edited : Thursday, 13 October 2011 - 04:48

Ooo the fur is flyin' over in the "Finally!" thread LOD started! Kinda warms my heart to see all of us regular gasbags going at it again for old times sake.

Check out this great story by Terry Laban:

hardboiledshaman.com/2011/02/20/title1/

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Last Edited : Saturday, 29 October 2011 - 07:36

So have you guys dug yourselves out of the snow yet?

There's about 1.5 million people on the east coast without power ...
it was a pretty slushy mess in my area of NJ and I exhausted myself twice in the middle of the night clearing my sidewalk, but next day, temps were between 40s and 50s.

rex