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AuthorTopic : HC against ?
Elader
Joined 2/08/2004
Posts : 236

Posted : Friday, 1 October 2004 - 18:17

What is the best unit to go against Heavy Cavalry?

^ector
Joined 11/11/2003
Posts : 987

Posted : Friday, 1 October 2004 - 18:20

marksmen.

Sage DoC
Joined 8/11/2002
Posts : 4070

Posted : Friday, 1 October 2004 - 18:23

other heavy calvary, assuming that you take the retal with a spearmen first.

For battles, of course. My default mindset is in battles.

Last Edited : Friday, 1 October 2004 - 22:12

DoRW Empirez
Joined 17/09/2001
Posts : 1521

Posted : Friday, 1 October 2004 - 19:47

a mack truck if you got one.... SOme kind of ranged.... HC if you have them, if you dont have either then macemen or falconiers.

Ghengis Khan
Joined 24/03/2003
Posts : 1158

Posted : Friday, 1 October 2004 - 19:54

Somebody elses units! Don't matter what just as long as they are not yours.

I am fairly sure this is the correct answer.

Raptor
Joined 15/08/2001
Posts : 3742

Posted : Friday, 1 October 2004 - 20:03

dont pike have a bonus against its rival?

ROCKHAMMER
Joined 14/09/2003
Posts : 116

Posted : Friday, 1 October 2004 - 20:47

I prefer knights against hc. SMACK away!

DoRW Empirez
Joined 17/09/2001
Posts : 1521

Posted : Friday, 1 October 2004 - 21:57

knights against HC? sure you get that first hit in, but when that HC retals your unit is gonna be feeling it in the morn... you loose about 10 knights in reg games in just a single hit, when at best you kill 4-5 HC... the HC will always pull ahead. specially cause when the HC power owns the Knight the bonus damage that wasnt inflicted (anything over 1k) will help lower its damage taken in the retal.... leaving you reeling in pain and little damage done.... so i cant condone knights at all no sir no sir i can not.

linkasy
Joined 1/08/2004
Posts : 652

Posted : Saturday, 2 October 2004 - 15:14

lots and lots of macemen and pikemen(I think there should be somthing to be able to stop HC but im just to lazy to put a note in the suggestion box)but really it has to be a combo of mace and marks.

DoRW Empirez
Joined 17/09/2001
Posts : 1521

Posted : Saturday, 2 October 2004 - 15:52

Ranged are the bane of a HC's existance!

linkasy
Joined 1/08/2004
Posts : 652

Posted : Saturday, 2 October 2004 - 15:56

mmm...not really, one of the uses of calvery is to chop down any ranged units before they can fire but if properly protected they can be deverstating against HC.

DoRW Empirez
Joined 17/09/2001
Posts : 1521

Posted : Saturday, 2 October 2004 - 16:01

link.... *rubs his neck and trys not to throttle the poor boy* ... you never allow any melee unit to come near your ranged man.... you use Zone of Control to keep units from touching them... .while using your ranged to devistate the enemy.... ranged are the best way to kill HC as you dont take any massive retaliatory strike... use your melee to defend your ranged and shoot them down... a stack of 20 takes about 4 shots (if you have stacks that do 1k damage in reg games)

huitzilopochtli
Joined 29/08/2003
Posts : 468

Posted : Saturday, 2 October 2004 - 20:00

ballista, mace and lots of them!!!

tackedlugnut
Joined 6/09/2003
Posts : 397

Posted : Saturday, 2 October 2004 - 21:59

Marksmen backed by large stacks of comms protected by forest/mountains with mace protecting the gaps....
Link, balli are great but they arent very good against HC.

TL

DoRW Empirez
Joined 17/09/2001
Posts : 1521

Posted : Sunday, 3 October 2004 - 00:46

well... balista usually can shoot from further away =P personally i like as much space between me and death. but ya marks are better, more attack, no range penalty.

BigAmigo
Joined 15/10/2001
Posts : 3716

Posted : Sunday, 3 October 2004 - 00:52

Mace is the logical choice. Of course backed by Marks would be nice too.

Another good option is get your opponents resources so he cant deploy the crazy things.

linkasy
Joined 1/08/2004
Posts : 652

Posted : Sunday, 3 October 2004 - 09:52

after playing around on the combat simulator, you would need around 3X as many mace as HC for defending....

linkasy
Joined 1/08/2004
Posts : 652

Posted : Sunday, 3 October 2004 - 09:55

and HC almost cost 3X as much so....

Mog DoC
Joined 5/02/2004
Posts : 14357

Posted : Sunday, 3 October 2004 - 11:04

I'll tell you what's good against HC, a scout retal attack, then 4 HC on one! Plus a bunch of arrows in the keister.

Grasp
Joined 29/08/2004
Posts : 20

Posted : Sunday, 3 October 2004 - 15:39

If I was any body I get a ton HC's and circle him and use Marks to attack range kill him in 1 turn

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