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AuthorTopic : Increased range for Longbowmen?
Mog DoC
Joined 5/02/2004
Posts : 14303

Posted : Monday, 26 August 2013 - 13:55

I am playing a duel with Pro right now and by my error I am playing barbs. I notice the horrifying lack of a counter to ballistas, namely, the best barbarian ranged unit is the Longbowman and he has a range of 7. Ballistas laugh at him as they wipe his butt off the map.

I wonder if increasing the range of Longbowmen to that of ballistas would make barbarians a better balanced class? This is something I can actually do to change the game and I would like to hear opinions, please. Please keep them this particular topic though, not all the changes you ever wanted in the game!

Pro
Joined 22/10/2000
Posts : 3021

Posted : Monday, 26 August 2013 - 15:21

not untill this game is finnished lol
i still have not played another class.

Mog DoC
Joined 5/02/2004
Posts : 14303

Posted : Monday, 26 August 2013 - 19:48

No, it would have to be proceeded with a warning period, unlike what Requiem always did!

Pro
Joined 22/10/2000
Posts : 3021

Posted : Tuesday, 27 August 2013 - 00:05

lol, ahh yes, log in in the morning and find that range has suddenly been cut and will no longer hit the enemy, every1 thinking bugs have attacked. then finally click and check notice board

TaurusRex
Joined 14/06/2002
Posts : 9462

Posted : Tuesday, 27 August 2013 - 02:36

Mog, I'm not familiar with longbowmen, but imho marksmen are too strong now and I have to say that instead of using the tactics that should be used like chasing down ballista with horse troops for example, you want to make changes like giving ladders to infantry instead of deploying rams or cats for another example.

rex

Mog DoC
Joined 5/02/2004
Posts : 14303

Posted : Tuesday, 27 August 2013 - 08:36

How do horse troops attack a ballista in a tower in a castle? They don't. I am facing a ranged troop with no way to reply except to move up and let him kill me. How cool!

Anyone have any other views on this subject that actually address what to do?
So far, no one has said anything germane to the issue.

huliojordio DoC
Joined 3/03/2003
Posts : 214

Posted : Tuesday, 27 August 2013 - 08:42

I don't see why increasing their range would be an issue, I have never used Barb's before, maybe would like too, but do they have any advantage over any of the other races at all? If not, I thinks its only fair you give them a fighting chance in a game!

TaurusRex
Joined 14/06/2002
Posts : 9462

Posted : Tuesday, 27 August 2013 - 08:58

"How do horse troops attack a ballista in a tower in a castle?"-Mog

You research catapults or rams, use them to demolish the walls around the tower and the tower and then attack with horse troops.

PS:
You need more patience for this game Mog.

rex

Mog DoC
Joined 5/02/2004
Posts : 14303

Posted : Tuesday, 27 August 2013 - 13:07

OK, then, TR, play barbs in a duel and tell me what you think when you have an informed opinion, ok? I am actually aware of the troops available to me, and guess what, I am attacking his walls and towers with catapults, however not having a ranged unit that can support my troops that is as long-ranged as his ballistas is proving very costly. Longbowmen aren't particularly strong units, either.

So far I have one comment that is about the thread topic, the rest is just hate mail as far as I can tell. Does anyone have an informed, intelligent opinion to express about this issue? Anyone ever play barbs in a duel before?

It occurs to me that perhaps barbs could share ballistas with medieval, same as they share cats. That would take Requiem's touch to accomplish, so...

Last Edited : Tuesday, 27 August 2013 - 13:09

TaurusRex
Joined 14/06/2002
Posts : 9462

Posted : Tuesday, 27 August 2013 - 14:24

All I know is this, that I hate that marksmen are like supermen and it sounds like you want to make longbowmen like supermen too;
but I don't hate you Mog if that makes you feel better.

PS:
Suggestions get shot down too ...
Neb used to love to come down on my suggestions it seemed to me.

rex

Pro
Joined 22/10/2000
Posts : 3021

Posted : Tuesday, 27 August 2013 - 16:22

whats the price of longbowmen mog, marks are over rated in my opinion, very expensive.

Mog DoC
Joined 5/02/2004
Posts : 14303

Posted : Tuesday, 27 August 2013 - 16:33

16000 and 360 gold! They are about equivalent to marksmen, but pricier.

Ultima Bahamut
Joined 1/12/2001
Posts : 2508

Posted : Wednesday, 28 August 2013 - 02:28

Ridonculous... I would have to look at all involved stats. I will do that later and maybe give a fair balance from my point of view later.

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