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Forum : Strategy & Tactics
AuthorTopic : Battles suck nowadays.
Mog DoC
Joined 5/02/2004
Posts : 14303

Posted : Saturday, 15 September 2012 - 09:16

And here's why:

Req made it so that troops could move through allied troops. That is really cool for campaigns but it makes battles so lopsided as to be pointless. The person who gets the first strike wins. That's the game. So what is the inducement to move into range of the other guy? It is a losing move.

I have no idea what can be done to fix this since anything Req does to the mechanics of the game affect the entire game system, battles, duels and campaigns.

In the meantime, once I am out of the two battles I'm in I can't see wanting to join another, which is a shame since I'd like to get to 1,000 battles here.

Any ideas?

Ultima Bahamut
Joined 1/12/2001
Posts : 2508

Posted : Saturday, 15 September 2012 - 17:31

Go back to the old system! LOL

Seriously though? I feel that regardless of what is done to it the system is slightly broken. Maybe Req should separate all the mechanics to only affect a particular game mode because otherwise you are looking at this issue in the face... and it aint going nowhere.

Mog DoC
Joined 5/02/2004
Posts : 14303

Posted : Saturday, 15 September 2012 - 17:58

I can think of a system where in a battle you have to spend move points up to a middling total, instead of having all the troops move their full distance each turn. You could move a percentage of your troops and attack, or use the total to move more troops farther.

Ultima Bahamut
Joined 1/12/2001
Posts : 2508

Posted : Sunday, 16 September 2012 - 00:11

I could think of a ways as well. Now what I think would be awesome... and only because I just experienced it for the first time, is if we could go back to a move system that did not require everyone to be on at the same time! I just got slaughtered thinking I had time to make my moves. :/

Mog DoC
Joined 5/02/2004
Posts : 14303

Posted : Sunday, 16 September 2012 - 05:33

I find it best to make regular moves, not near the turn beginning. I don't want to have to worry about timing my moves with someone else!

In any case, that is off-topic, this is about battles, right?

Mog DoC
Joined 5/02/2004
Posts : 14303

Posted : Wednesday, 19 September 2012 - 09:51

Wow, battles really, REALLY suck nowadays! I am in two, and I am going to quit both of them since no one is going to move into first strike range, I am on turn 29 in one game and no fighting at all! In fact, my opponents are now tearing down walls to gain experience points, which in my opinion is pathetic. Too bad these great battle games are now screwed. I won't ever play another.

LOD
Joined 13/12/2001
Posts : 5681

Posted : Wednesday, 19 September 2012 - 10:32

Battles should have simultanious movement, no turns, only action.

Mog DoC
Joined 5/02/2004
Posts : 14303

Posted : Wednesday, 19 September 2012 - 12:33

No. That would just make people complain about their relative connection speeds.

Battles shouldn't allow move-through troops, but since a change to any aspect of the game system affects the whole shebang that can't be done. Only duels are fair games in Waronline, Battles and Campaigns both have flaws.

Ultima Bahamut
Joined 1/12/2001
Posts : 2508

Posted : Wednesday, 19 September 2012 - 15:34

I am sure arguments could be brought against duels as well...

Mog DoC
Joined 5/02/2004
Posts : 14303

Posted : Wednesday, 19 September 2012 - 16:34

No doubt!

Mog DoC
Joined 5/02/2004
Posts : 14303

Posted : Sunday, 9 March 2014 - 23:35

I still would like to figure out some way to make battles fun again...

hitmewithit
Joined 2/09/2009
Posts : 664

Posted : Tuesday, 11 March 2014 - 09:05

sounds fun

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