You may never see this again, so I'm posting this data up for posterity and later analysis on how to properly exploit the market. All in Ultra 2 are invited to buy gems and sell everything else at this point.

Gold Gems Metal Stone Wood Pop.
32794 -508843 84691 +51774 333 -174544 48 -261119 149 -206674 10585



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Transaction Complete. Reserves Values (change) Buy Sell
Gems 4k 198.19 +192.53 Graph 220.21 178.37

Metal 341k 2.15 -0.19 Graph 2.39 1.94

Stone 452k 1.62 -0.17 Graph 1.80 1.46

Wood 462k 1.59 +0.08 Graph 1.77 1.43



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Campaigns - Ultra 2 : Trading Market

Reserves Values (change) Buy Sell
Gems 2k 100.00 +380.96 Graph 111.11 90.00

Metal 381k 2.23 -0.10 Graph 2.48 2.01

Stone 452k 1.88 +0.10 Graph 2.09 1.69

Wood 462k 1.84 +0.33 Graph 2.04 1.66

Buying 500 Gems will cost 240149 Gold

Last Edited : Wednesday, 2 November 2005 - 12:16

It appears Req has indeed implemented a resource floor at 2k. It may be at a percentage, however. Brave souls are requested to try this in a duel or standard size map

I had someone sell a gem, then I tried to buy 500. Not allowed. Then I bought the guy's gem - allowed - and tried to buy another - not allowed. It appears Req actually HAS put a floor in

There also appears to be a price ceiling at 100 'value'.

Last Edited : Wednesday, 2 November 2005 - 12:47

Gold Gems Metal Stone Wood
1556888 +647137 28 -10307 314 -1000 397 -78000 196 -50000


Reserves Values (change) Buy Sell
Gems 11k 22.84 -363.78 Graph 25.38 20.56

Metal 384k 0.62 -1.61 Graph 0.69 0.56

Stone 532k 0.45 -1.43 Graph 0.50 0.41

Wood 514k 0.47 -1.37 Graph 0.52 0.42

Resource counter seems pretty sturdy.

The opposite extreme. How to flood a market!

Reserves Values (change) Buy Sell
Gems 97k 0.58 -386.04 Graph 0.64 0.52

Metal 384k 0.15 -2.08 Graph 0.17 0.14

Stone 533k 0.11 -1.77 Graph 0.12 0.10

Wood 514k 0.11 -1.73 Graph 0.12 0.10

While Req has put floors on the stock and celiings on the prices (or tried! - it flashes the true price a few times... ), he has not preserved the base selling at the market.

Selling 500 Metal will give you 0 Gold
Selling 500 Gems will give you 11 Gold

wats the point of this?

hmmm i asked ihm that...he gave me the answer...i am gonna force him to NOT reveal the point of this

If I'm reading this right, he sold all his resources, and bought all the gems he could. The other resources are worth nothing by the time he's done selling, thereby dealing everyone else in the game a big blow by leaving them with worthless resources that sell for a nickel.
However, CTD now has 80,000 gems that are worth $220 each. This happened because he bought as many gems as possible thereby driving the price higher and higher. The bug he refers to, deals with the cap on pricing. Req must have capped it off at a certain level. CTD must have found a way that the cap is overridden and he can sell his gems for much more than he paid for them. Right now his gems are worth 17,000,000. Of course once he starts selling, the price he gets should drop, so it won't quite be 17,000,000, but I bet it's pretty good chunk of change...more than he spent to do this.

Of course it takes a lot of cash and patience to do this...am I close? The only question left is, what is the bug that allows this? And why is CTD exploiting this bug in an active game? I should maybe post this on the bug forums...

Neb

um... think thats off by a bit...QUITE a bit in fact.

The 'bug' as you so put it, was me having 15 castles out of 40 at the end of an ultra game. A game that was due to end about 6 hours later. I roped Ult here into helping, and with his dozen or so castles we would have about 2/3rds of the map's resources.

The FULL specific point, I'm not going to reveal. But what I WILL tell you is that this is preliminary work on just what the market can take and how it works.

So, you want to report? Go for it
Req almost certainly knows about the 2k cap, but he really ought to know about the price cap bug. And since none of this cap business was public knowledge (at least as far as I know) I've just done a public service in providing everyone with strategic info.

In short, if you want the best possible results in your games, you will inevitably need the best understanding of the game mechanics you can get, and afaik the market mechanics are still largely unknown save for the principles. (Except Req of course, but he ain't playing and probably wouldn't reveal all the mechanics anyway )

That's also why I've sent the open invite to the community to try messing the market about on some smaller maps, where the base values are much lower. Is the cap really 2k? What kind of variations can knock out of the system?

Some thoughts.